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Somewhere in the Skies

Aug 27, 2018

On episode 71 of SOMEWHERE IN THE SKIES, Ryan is joined by UFO journalist, Jason McClellan and UFO blogger and academic, MJ Banias. The three sit down, whiskey in hand, to discuss the recent happenings over at To the Stars Academy of Arts and Science. With the announcement of a new research project knows as The Acquisition and Data Analysis of Materials (A.D.A.M), things are getting very interesting in the UFO field and beyond.

With this project, Tom DeLonge, Luis Elizondo, and the rest of the science team will recover materials that are said to have possibly been from downed UFO craft. With the assistance of TTSA member, Hal Putoff, and a group of scientists, these materials will undergo rigorous analysis to determine its composition and possible origins. But will we be privy to what they find? And if they do determine these materials to be from off-planet, what comes next? 

Ryan, Jason, and MJ weave their whiskey-fueled way through the project including its pros, cons, and what may come next for the future of To the Stars Academy and even the future of UFO research on a grander scale. As you can imagine, it was a critical conversation that could only take place Somewhere in the whiskey! 

Guest Bios:

Jason McClellan is a UFO journalist and the producer/co-host of the web series Spacing Out! He is also the web content manager and staff writer for, and a co-organizer and technical producer of the International UFO Congress. As a founding member of Open Minds, Jason served as a writer and editor for the now defunct Open Minds magazine. He has appeared on Syfy, NatGeo, and, most recently, he co-starred on H2’s Hangar 1: The UFO Files. He is the author of Only Weirdos See UFOs: An Introduction to the Public's Misperception of Unidentified Aerial Phenomena and Extraterrestrial LifeHis work can be found at:

MJ Banias is a writer, blogger, and theorist with a background in Critical Theory, History, and Cultural Studies who critically and philosophically examines the weird, the strange and the anomalous.  He was a former field investigator with MUFON, has been featured on multiple podcasts and contributes to Mysterious Universe and Rogue Planet. His work is also featured in a new book entitled UFOs: Reframing the Debate. He is also the creator of the blog, TERRA OBSCURA. This blog is aimed at critically exploring the culture, the people, and the ideas that shape what society considers inexplicable. Using aspects of philosophy, critical theory, and cultural studies, To questions the common ideologies that form and inform our knowledge concerning bizarre incidents, anomalous paranormal events, UFOs, synchronicities, and other events people consider "strange." To learn more, visit:

* Audio clips in this episode provided by To The Stars Inc.



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Opening Theme Song, "Ephemeral Reign" by Per Kiilstofte

Closing Song, "Chasing Shadows" by Tom DeLonge and Angels and Airwaves

SOMEWHERE IN THE SKIES is produced by Third Kind Productions, in association with eOne Entertainment

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