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Somewhere in the Skies

Nov 25, 2019

On episode 136 of SOMEWHERE IN THE SKIES, Ryan is joined by Jason McClellan and Maureen Elsberry, both of Rogue Planet's UNKNOWN podcast, to discuss the latest news in UFO material acquisition. What exactly is the new partnership between Tom DeLonge's To the Stars Academy and the U.S. Army? What materials does the academy have, how did they obtain them, and what exactly does the army hope to do with this possible game-changing technology? The three discuss their own experiences with claimed UFO materials, how challenging it is to actually scientifically test these materials, and what happens when belief clouds the rigor of science?

Guest Bios:

Jason McClellan is a podcaster, author, TV personality, and journalist with a proclivity for all sorts of geekery including UFOs, space, science, technology, and geek culture. He had the unique experience of serving as a full-time UFO researcher and journalist for more than six years, having co-organized the largest annual UFO conference in the world. As a founding member Open Minds, he wrote for an edited Open Minds magazine. He's also written for Geek magazine, Tech Times, and To The Stars. He's appeared on  Syfy, NatGeo, Geek & Sundry, and, most recently, co-starred on History Channel's Hangar 1: The UFO Files. He created and hosts the UNKNOWN podcast and the geek and paranormal media company, Rogue Planet. Learn more at:

Maureen Elsberry is a journalist, paranormal investigator, researcher, and media personality specializing in weird mysteries, the anomalous, sci-fi, and geek culture. She was a founding member of the UFO media company Open Minds and spent over six years as a full-time UFO researcher and journalist. She wrote for the internationally-distributed print magazine, Open Minds, and co-hosted and associate produced over 100 episodes of the popular web series Spacing Out! She also co-organized the largest UFO conference in the world, the International UFO Congress, which was recognized in 2015 by the Guinness Book of Records. Maureen starred on the investigative docu-drama Uncovering Aliens. She also served as a paranormal researcher and writer for Tom DeLonge’s (Blink-182/Angels and Airwaves) media empire To the Stars. Currently, Maureen co-runs the geek and paranormal media company, Rogue Planet. Learn more at 


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